big company like that, you would hope they have plans in place. i think that "wall street journal" which came out with a remarkably defensive opinion yesterday attacking those who attacked the company, it is sort of silly to say things like that wouldn't be discussed or accelerated. we know in the business world obviously they have these types of discussions. it's a newspaper i like but "wall street journal" is going off the deep end on this one. >> if he remains chairman, how many symbolically changes. we want to take you inside. as we told you before what was taking place today this evidence session as they call it for the unauthorized tapping or hacking. >> it looks less imposing than we've been talking about. it looks like a small gathering. >> this isn't in the huge hall where you would see members of parliament. this is a select committee on culture media. there's room for 40 to 50 spectators in this room and there will be spillover rooms where people can follow the proceedings on television. that's paul stephenson. he was the top police chi